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	<title>Comments on: Are FHA Mortgage Borrowers Being Overcharged?</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-26434</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had a conversation with a HUD employee, I am being told: "In Texas they are taking mortgage broker fees very seriously" and they will not allow any mortgage broker fee to be charged unless it is to a non approved 3rd party. I was also told that lenders who continue to allow this will be reported to the Mortgage Review Board. That is straight from HUD's mouth. 

We are a wholesale lender but have been allowing brokers to charge a mortgage broker fee. HUD has hit us with paying back mortgage broker fees on loans that have gone through QC in Texas. This appears to be a very slippery slope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had a conversation with a HUD employee, I am being told: &#8220;In Texas they are taking mortgage broker fees very seriously&#8221; and they will not allow any mortgage broker fee to be charged unless it is to a non approved 3rd party. I was also told that lenders who continue to allow this will be reported to the Mortgage Review Board. That is straight from HUD&#8217;s mouth. </p>
<p>We are a wholesale lender but have been allowing brokers to charge a mortgage broker fee. HUD has hit us with paying back mortgage broker fees on loans that have gone through QC in Texas. This appears to be a very slippery slope!</p>
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		<title>By: Krista Railey</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-4636</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista Railey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, if a state law offers greater protection to the consumer, can HUD make a determination that the state law is inconsistent with RESPA?

Consider that RESPA specifically exempts the payments to the LENDER's AGENT or contractor.  

I do not believe that RESPA can preempt state law or even determine that the state law is inconsistent with RESPA when there is already an exclusion for one party (the lender).  Clearly, disallowing fair compensation of a borrower's exclusive agent would put consumers at a disadvantage and would conflict with 24 CFR 203.37 (5) (e).  

This section of the Code of Federal Regulations pertains to allowable costs on FHA transactions and specifically preserves the right of the borrower to deal with a mortgage broker who does not REPRESENT the mortgagee and pay compensation that is acceptable to the borrower in order to obtain financing.  Clearly, Congress intended that the borrower be able to procure their own representation as the FHA approved broker is always the AGENT of the Mortgagee (lender).  

While banks may be exempted from certain state laws, mortgage brokers are governed by the laws of their individual states which are not preempted (for the broker) even if the transaction involves a federally insured loan. Furthermore, Federally regulated lenders must still comply with Federal laws.  

This issue is not so much about federal regulations or inconsistencies between state laws and RESPA so much as is about HUD recognizing agency representation for the borrower as a compensable service, fair and equal application of RESPA to all costs (including borrower's broker), and a formal acknowledgment that some brokers are intermediaries that sell access to money while others are fiduciaries.  

However, as long mortgage broker fiduciary duty is curtailed, there is no hope of reform for the mortgage industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, if a state law offers greater protection to the consumer, can HUD make a determination that the state law is inconsistent with RESPA?</p>
<p>Consider that RESPA specifically exempts the payments to the LENDER&#8217;s AGENT or contractor.  </p>
<p>I do not believe that RESPA can preempt state law or even determine that the state law is inconsistent with RESPA when there is already an exclusion for one party (the lender).  Clearly, disallowing fair compensation of a borrower&#8217;s exclusive agent would put consumers at a disadvantage and would conflict with 24 CFR 203.37 (5) (e).  </p>
<p>This section of the Code of Federal Regulations pertains to allowable costs on FHA transactions and specifically preserves the right of the borrower to deal with a mortgage broker who does not REPRESENT the mortgagee and pay compensation that is acceptable to the borrower in order to obtain financing.  Clearly, Congress intended that the borrower be able to procure their own representation as the FHA approved broker is always the AGENT of the Mortgagee (lender).  </p>
<p>While banks may be exempted from certain state laws, mortgage brokers are governed by the laws of their individual states which are not preempted (for the broker) even if the transaction involves a federally insured loan. Furthermore, Federally regulated lenders must still comply with Federal laws.  </p>
<p>This issue is not so much about federal regulations or inconsistencies between state laws and RESPA so much as is about HUD recognizing agency representation for the borrower as a compensable service, fair and equal application of RESPA to all costs (including borrower&#8217;s broker), and a formal acknowledgment that some brokers are intermediaries that sell access to money while others are fiduciaries.  </p>
<p>However, as long mortgage broker fiduciary duty is curtailed, there is no hope of reform for the mortgage industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Cleve</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-3639</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ruling from FHA is @ http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/lender/notaprbr.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling from FHA is @ <a href="http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/lender/notaprbr.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/lender/notaprbr.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what is the federal rule on non fha-approved mortgage brokers getting paid for their services. How is it stated how they are paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what is the federal rule on non fha-approved mortgage brokers getting paid for their services. How is it stated how they are paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting someone in a subprime loan when they plainly qualify for an FHA mortgage should be a crime. You're essentially asking someone to pay additional thousands of dollars per year, a huge burden for most borrowers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting someone in a subprime loan when they plainly qualify for an FHA mortgage should be a crime. You&#8217;re essentially asking someone to pay additional thousands of dollars per year, a huge burden for most borrowers.</p>
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		<title>By: fha loans</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>fha loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fha loans have been saving a lot of subprime borrowers.  subprime rates are like 8-9%....and FHA is 7% or lower!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fha loans have been saving a lot of subprime borrowers.  subprime rates are like 8-9%&#8230;.and FHA is 7% or lower!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krista --

Thanks for your post, you raise an important issue. 

Lenders regulated by the federal government are not bound by state rules. States are impotent when they have rules which conflict or are contrary to federal guidelines under the concept of preemption.

Please continue to post with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krista &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for your post, you raise an important issue. </p>
<p>Lenders regulated by the federal government are not bound by state rules. States are impotent when they have rules which conflict or are contrary to federal guidelines under the concept of preemption.</p>
<p>Please continue to post with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Krista Railey</title>
		<link>http://www.fhaloanpros.com/2007/10/are-fha-mortgage-borrowers-being-oversharged/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista Railey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alert does not address when a mortgage broker is functioning as an AGENT of the borrower.  In AGENCY states where the mortgage broker is an AGENT of the borrower AND the mortgage broker owes the borrower a FIDUCIARY DUTY under State Law, exclusive representation is a compensable service that is separate and distinct from "loan origination".  Because the HUD approved mortgage broker is the AGENT of the lender, they cannot provide the borrower exclusive representation.

I was specifically waiting for a ML to address this issue.  Mortgage Brokers in California owe borrowers a FIDUCIARY DUTY as per California State Supreme Court.  Under the California Business and Professions code, the brokers function as agents and owe borrowers fiduciary duty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alert does not address when a mortgage broker is functioning as an AGENT of the borrower.  In AGENCY states where the mortgage broker is an AGENT of the borrower AND the mortgage broker owes the borrower a FIDUCIARY DUTY under State Law, exclusive representation is a compensable service that is separate and distinct from &#8220;loan origination&#8221;.  Because the HUD approved mortgage broker is the AGENT of the lender, they cannot provide the borrower exclusive representation.</p>
<p>I was specifically waiting for a ML to address this issue.  Mortgage Brokers in California owe borrowers a FIDUCIARY DUTY as per California State Supreme Court.  Under the California Business and Professions code, the brokers function as agents and owe borrowers fiduciary duty.</p>
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